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Wednesday, 3 December 2008

3’s email help: do the thing you’ve already done


I’ve recently bought the excellent Nokia E71 on 3, mostly because for £25 a month I get 300 minutes of anytime texts or voice calls, 1GB of 3G downloads and, most importantly, unlimited email. For the most part the service is excellent and I always seem to have a signal and 3G coverage.

One of the things that attracted me to 3 was the Email on 3 service, which provides push email via a small application that installs on the handset. For well-known accounts, such as Gmail and Hotmail, it’s incredibly simply to set up: I just had to type in my account details to get my email pushed directly to my handset.

Brilliant, I thought, time to set up my work email, which should have been easy. Email on 3 supports Outlook Web Access (OWA) - the web front end to corporate Exchange servers. It should connect to this service and synchronise so that email read or deleted on the phone is marked as read or deleted on the server.

Now, while it seems to work with some OWA accounts, it decided not to work with Computer Shopper’s email. Unfortunately, this is where it all gets a little bit Groundhog Day.

Before you select that your company uses OWA the on-screen instructions read: “Select Options -> Use OWA if your corporate Exchange server allows Outlook Web Access (OWA). Otherwise, select Options -> Sign up now.”

With OWA not working, I decided to select Sign up now, where I was asked: “Enter your work email address on the next screen. An email message with sign-up instructions will be sent to you immediately.”

I did that and got the following helpful message: “On your PC, please follow the instructions in the email you just received to connect the Email on 3 service to your email account.”
I waited, excitedly, for the promised email to turn up with my full instructions, when this comes through: “To get started with Email on 3, open the application on your phone and select ‘Add Account’.”

What a stunningly brilliant bit of advice: I should just use the option that I’ve already used to get it to send me an email telling me to do what I’ve already done. I don’t think that could be any clearer or any more helpful.

Surprisingly, things can actually get worse if you use the Sign In on this Device option instead of trying to add an account. This brings up the: “Enter your User Name and Password on the next screen. The User Name and Password are those you use to access your email at work.” Sounds good, so far...

It continues: “You selected the connector ID when you set up your service, or it is shown in your welcome email.”

Sadly, neither of the above cases is true. So, what to do? The obvious answer was to search the internet for some help, only there’s one problem: Email on 3 as a search phrase doesn’t work very well as 3 has chosen a non-search-engine-friendly name for its service. You see, searching for this term, brings up any matches that use that sentence, such as forum posts asking ‘Can I get email on 3?’ or new stories saying ‘Get unlimited email on 3’. In fact, there are millions of hits out there that link to loads of bits of information that are of no practical use in this situation. Why couldn’t 3 have called its push email service, 3mail or Push3, or anything that would actually turn up a decent hit in Google? Adding ‘Connector ID’ to the search term brings up exactly nothing, as does searching 3’s own website for this term.

Sighing, I decided to turn to the last resort: phoning for technical support. Unfortunately, 3, like a lot of companies, has decided to out-source its call centre to a foreign country. There’s nothing wrong with this in principle, but practically I may as well have dialled a random number and asked whoever answered the phone for help.

The main reason for this is that I couldn’t really understand the person on the other end of the line, while they found it difficult to understand exactly what I was asking. This situation was amplified by the fact that I needed help with something that wasn’t on the standard problem solving flowchart that call centres tend to have.

In my case, a very slow conversation (if that’s the word for it) took place, where I’d say something and the call centre guy would repeat it slowly back to me. It was like talking to an old and slightly deaf aunt, only I wouldn’t pay that aunt £25 a month for the privilege. I would say that I got nowhere fast, except it took an excruciatingly long time.

The upshot was that the call centre didn’t have any idea what Email on 3 was, what a Connector ID was or how it was all supposed to be set up. Talking to someone that doesn’t have English as a first language also meant that it was practically impossible to describe exactly what the problem was and where I should go for help. So, I gave up.

Fortunately for me, Nokia is brilliant and the E71 has an application called Mail for Exchange. Once installed, this will connect to an Exchange server via OWA, synchronise email, contacts, calendar and to-do lists without sending me a pointless email or making me phone anyone. Why couldn’t I have just used that in the first place?

13 comments:

David Hind said...

Haha David - a comical account of what I have just experienced! Although a slight difference for me, when I searched google with "Email on 3 connector ID", it came up with your little ramble! Unfortunately, I am now stuck. I am using a Sony Ericsson K850i, with only the option of using Threes seemingly shoddy program (although Im sure if it worked it would be brilliant!). I am now tempted to ring that horrible helpline, and just hope that someone with some sense picks up. Wish me luck!

Anonymous said...

Similarly awful experience with this. I downloaded the application and it worked perfectly for 2 weeks. After 2 weeks, it stopped working and said that my subscription had expired and to contact my service provider. The geniuses on the helpline informed me that my handset is not compatible with Email on 3. When I explained that my handset was in the list of available handsets on the download page, and that it had worked perfectly for 2 weeks, he just said it's not compatible and it won't work. I got a bit more sense from the online tech support - if you log onto my3 on your computer and go to Contact us then chat with a technical adviser - but although she asked for the software version and things like that, she still came back with 'your handset is not compatible'. Absolutely nothing I could do to convince them otherwise - the easy option for them was to say that my handset is incompatible and they can't help. End of story. I really realllllly can't wait for my contract to end so I can transfer to a proper mobile phone company.

Anonymous said...

I forgot to add that I pay £5 a month for Internet Max, which is the required add-on for Email on 3 after the free trial. Ho hum.

Anonymous said...

@Anonymous #1
I had the same problem with the 2 week thing. I kept on at them and eventually got through to some one who knew what to do, they took the email address I wanted to use and shortlty afterward it worked fine, if they give you the runaround with about the handset, tell they you're using a N95.
Pete

Jonathan said...

Well, four months on and setting up with out Outlook Web Access (OWA) using the "Sign up now" is just as David described in December. Only the phone client knows about a connector ID.

Jonathan

Michael said...

Hi Guys I know this may be a bit late for you all but I use email on 3 on my E71 to access my university mail which I imagine works much the same as work mail. I couldn't log into the OWA or anything on the work mail section although Imperial say I should be able to. The ICT guys also didn't have a clue about connector ID. I managed to get email on three working very well through the more email providers option and selecting the other POP option. The only difficulty is getting the server names correct, as for example I had to use a different outgoing server if I didn't have a VPN connection to the college. These are, though, the same as you would need to set up any email application like Outlook for example. Other than this I have three seperate email accounts set up on my E71 using this and they all work as well as my blackberry did. The only problem I have found with email on three is the work account section which I would avoid. Hope this helps.

Nutmeg said...

I had my work service working for about 6 months... setup via OWA. However this morning it's just stopped... joy... again cant get any connector ID when trying alternative methods... i think i'll blame my IT department for this one...

Anonymous said...

I have been attempting to use 'Email on 3' on my Nokia E71 handset for the past four months. I can safely say that it is possibly the worst excuse for an email client on the market.

If you are serious about receiving your emails on your mobile phone then do not waste time attempting to use this very sub standard product!

Apparently the 'Email on 3' client has been developed by the company Seven. I'm convinced Seven do not actually test the products before they release them.

They did actually release an updated email client a couple of months ago, however this was actually withdrawn less than a week after being released because 3 received so many complaints from customers about how poor it was. Once again, this was supposed to be an updated client. Please feel free to contact 3's customer service (technical support department) for confirmation of this.

I have actually been a '3' customer for a few years now and I experienced the same if not worse problems with '3's previous mobile email solution - mobile mail (also developed by Seven)

Further, as the author stated - 3 customer service is a complete joke! The Indian customer service centre you are a transferred to is a complete waste of time. When you finally get through to someone, they will just repeat every word you have said and then have pretty much no idea how to solve your problem. I believe they basically just read out general answers from prepared manuals.

How Hutchinson 3G UK Ltd (the owner of 3) have been able to get away with this, I do not know!

I would strongly advise anyone to avoid, not only 'Email on 3' if you are a 3 customer, but further I would go as far as to advise anyone thinking of taking out a new mobile phone contract to avoid the '3' network at all costs!

You've been warned!!

Once again, (if you are already a 3 customer) please do not waste your time with 'Email on 3'

If you're seriously looking for a proper mobile email service then invest in a Blackberry.

Anonymous said...

I have had similar problems a Nokia E63.

For me, the way to avoid the "connector id" option was to not select "Work" but instead "More email providers" then "other imap" (my server is both imap/pop3 so I could have chosen "other pop" here). It then set up fine.

Interestingly, people on other forums have mentioned a problem with port 25 on 3, however I leftthe outgoing as port 25, and the incoming as port 143, and my first couple of test messages have been fine.

Anonymous said...

I must be a glutton for punishment. I have an E63 and actually have both my personal mail (via 3mail) and work mail (via Mfe) working just fine.

However, when I went in to the 3 shop having just upgraded to the E63 they told me that I would be better using 'email on 3' as this would not "eat" my data allowance. I have since spent 7 days (on and off) on the phone with India (I have to say with a better language experience than most of the other commentators) and they still haven't managed to set me up on email on 3.

If they come back with a solution, I will repost, otherwise for exchange users I suggest you use Mfe and for personal mail, use the 3 website to create the account and sms it to yourself - To heck with the data cost - it works!!

Roger Frost said...

I experienced nothing but polite help from 3's India support. They sound different to UK people but only half a brain is needed to work out why. I will post the solution to using email on 3 with my work email elsewhere because the blog entry above was a waste of my time and somebody else's space.

John said...

For the record, I experienced similar problems setting up Email on 3--the connector ID specifically. However, the 'more email providers' option does allow for other imap/pop3 accounts without the mysterious 'connector ID'! So, try that route...
In regards to 3 Customer Service. Personally, Let me just say that I have noticed a massive quality increase in their customer service. I think that three have made huge adjustments in the way that they do business, because the customer service centres have been able to resolve any issues I have recently faced with courtesy and skill. This has not always been the case, but let me just stand up for three and say don't count them out! They have taken me--a normally tough customer-- and have begun to turn me into a loyal customer.

Anonymous said...

Over a 12 month period I had incessant problems with setting up e-mail on an E63 from 3 that would fill 10 pages of A4 so I think its time to get the sledgehammer out and smash that damned phone.